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Is God a Moral Monster?: Making Sense of the Old Testament God

Is God a Moral Monster?: Making Sense of the Old Testament God

byPaul Copan
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C. H. Cobb
5.0 out of 5 starsAn important addition to your apologetics shelf!
Reviewed in the United States on December 6, 2017
This is a really good book. Copan does a great job handling the assaults of the New Atheists and working through difficult texts of the Old Testament (including the so-called terror texts). Copan deals with slavery, the Bible's treatment of women, holy war, and several other topics that often give Christians (and atheists!) problems. While I gave the book 5 stars for its basic excellence, there are a number of minor points I would raise questions about had I the time or were I myself a better scholar. I'll just mention two.

Copan frequently resorts to the language of exaggeration in his dealing with OT texts. Scripture certainly does use hyperbole in places, but I'm not convinced that it does so as often as Copan suggests. Sometimes this appears to be an argument of convenience.

Copan also goes in several directions regarding the Conquest that I felt were sort of weak, such as giving credence to the Infiltration theory of the Conquest. The account in the Bible of the crossing of the Red Sea and of the Jordan, in my view, pretty much vitiates the Infiltration theory. Both speak of sudden mass movements, and Joshua speaks of a sudden overthrow of the Canaanite dominance of the Promised Land. The fact that Canaanites continued to live in Canaan after the Conquest does not change the basic facts. Copan's resort to studying some of the various Hebrew words surrounding Israelite warfare merely opened the possibility for his interpretations (words do, after all, possess a semantic range), but certainly did not demand (or even suggest) his interpretations. Copan seems to acknowledge this in places with several "even if" statements.

Anyway, the book is excellent. All the chapters are good; the final chapter is outstanding. Well documented, well argued, this is certainly a book that should find a place on your apologetics shelf.
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J. Hans
2.0 out of 5 starsPreaching to the choir and bad arguments.
Reviewed in the United States on April 10, 2018
This book is not an answer to someone who has doubts, unless you have them read 20+ pages for any given passage, the explanations are far too long.

More importantly, most of them do not use scriptural references to defend certain points. A large majority of the authors answers boiled down to "it's much better than the nations surrounding Israel!"

The absolute worst aspect of this book was done of the worst "logic" I've read on the subject. In regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, the author asked "Considering they were homosexuals, you have to wonder just how many children were actually in the city?" And another "Considering they sacraficed children to false gods, you have to wonder just how many children were actually in the city?"

Both arguments are very poorly thought out and in bad taste. They are very unlikely to convince anyone and far more likely to disgust someone against a Christian.

For the first, it's very likely that they were sexually depraved toward all genders, afterall Lot did offer them his daughters, not his sons or son-in-laws. He would not have done this if the city was only known for its homosexuality.

For the second, in order to offer child sacrafices, you need to have children... Most likely the rituals were something like offering firstborns, a way to increase fertility. Not every child born.

It's arguments like these that make this a very poor choice of you want to help someone see through challenging topics in the old testament.

I give this 2 stars because toward the end of the book, the author does have a couple meaningful insights into Israelite slavery issues. But I don't know if it's worth purchasing to get to them.

Instead, I highly recommend "The Bible Project" on YouTube or their website. They do a fantastic job of bringing new insight to various themes, topics, and books. Including issues with some of the old testament passages. I can't recommend their work enough.
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C. H. Cobb
5.0 out of 5 stars An important addition to your apologetics shelf!
Reviewed in the United States on December 6, 2017
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This is a really good book. Copan does a great job handling the assaults of the New Atheists and working through difficult texts of the Old Testament (including the so-called terror texts). Copan deals with slavery, the Bible's treatment of women, holy war, and several other topics that often give Christians (and atheists!) problems. While I gave the book 5 stars for its basic excellence, there are a number of minor points I would raise questions about had I the time or were I myself a better scholar. I'll just mention two.

Copan frequently resorts to the language of exaggeration in his dealing with OT texts. Scripture certainly does use hyperbole in places, but I'm not convinced that it does so as often as Copan suggests. Sometimes this appears to be an argument of convenience.

Copan also goes in several directions regarding the Conquest that I felt were sort of weak, such as giving credence to the Infiltration theory of the Conquest. The account in the Bible of the crossing of the Red Sea and of the Jordan, in my view, pretty much vitiates the Infiltration theory. Both speak of sudden mass movements, and Joshua speaks of a sudden overthrow of the Canaanite dominance of the Promised Land. The fact that Canaanites continued to live in Canaan after the Conquest does not change the basic facts. Copan's resort to studying some of the various Hebrew words surrounding Israelite warfare merely opened the possibility for his interpretations (words do, after all, possess a semantic range), but certainly did not demand (or even suggest) his interpretations. Copan seems to acknowledge this in places with several "even if" statements.

Anyway, the book is excellent. All the chapters are good; the final chapter is outstanding. Well documented, well argued, this is certainly a book that should find a place on your apologetics shelf.
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J. Hans
2.0 out of 5 stars Preaching to the choir and bad arguments.
Reviewed in the United States on April 10, 2018
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This book is not an answer to someone who has doubts, unless you have them read 20+ pages for any given passage, the explanations are far too long.

More importantly, most of them do not use scriptural references to defend certain points. A large majority of the authors answers boiled down to "it's much better than the nations surrounding Israel!"

The absolute worst aspect of this book was done of the worst "logic" I've read on the subject. In regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, the author asked "Considering they were homosexuals, you have to wonder just how many children were actually in the city?" And another "Considering they sacraficed children to false gods, you have to wonder just how many children were actually in the city?"

Both arguments are very poorly thought out and in bad taste. They are very unlikely to convince anyone and far more likely to disgust someone against a Christian.

For the first, it's very likely that they were sexually depraved toward all genders, afterall Lot did offer them his daughters, not his sons or son-in-laws. He would not have done this if the city was only known for its homosexuality.

For the second, in order to offer child sacrafices, you need to have children... Most likely the rituals were something like offering firstborns, a way to increase fertility. Not every child born.

It's arguments like these that make this a very poor choice of you want to help someone see through challenging topics in the old testament.

I give this 2 stars because toward the end of the book, the author does have a couple meaningful insights into Israelite slavery issues. But I don't know if it's worth purchasing to get to them.

Instead, I highly recommend "The Bible Project" on YouTube or their website. They do a fantastic job of bringing new insight to various themes, topics, and books. Including issues with some of the old testament passages. I can't recommend their work enough.
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Never Stop Learning
5.0 out of 5 stars Well Reasoned… However…
Reviewed in the United States on April 15, 2022
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I found this book a well reasoned response to the modern atheistic moral fault-finding of the God of the Old Testament. They do this to undermine the credibility of the Bible as the ultimate truth source. The book covers the main areas of controversy by giving more nuanced interpretations of Bible passages quoted as evidence of God’s moral bankruptcy. However, for me, while I can appreciate and strengthen my convictions as a result of reading the book, it would be difficult for me to reproduce these arguments in an actual conversation. I ultimately fall back to a faith foundation built upon Jesus as God incarnate referencing the Old Testament as a reliable truth source and, as a consequence, believe the modern interpretations of these controversial passages are deeply flawed. As a reference I found the “Simple Apologetics” article on the eyewitness-scriptures.org website helpful.
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D. E. Dickerson
1.0 out of 5 stars Absolutely the Worst Kind of Special Pleading
Reviewed in the United States on October 15, 2018
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This is not an argument. It's a very long, very painful and tortured rationalization. God didn't commit genocide because the Bible says God is good and if he DID commit genocide, then the people he did it to deserved it (because reasons) and at that point is it really the bad-thing version of genocide?

This is the kind of thinking that makes Christians morally unreliable and sears their consciences until they're willing to vote in an authoritarian fascist if God says it's okay. It is the exact opposite of morality; it's arguing why you don't need to use your own moral compass if God tells you not to, even to the point of murder. A disgusting display of special pleading whose horrible moral impact the author can't possibly have thought through to its logical conclusion. In defending the Bible agains charges of evil, he has made evil a nonexistent consideration, compared to obeying what the literalists claim the Bible teaches. This way lies more genocide.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Address the new atheists' arguments head on, and it's dead on
Reviewed in the United States on May 11, 2016
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This book address the new atheists' arguments head on, and it's dead on. Copan's writing is clear, lucid, and readable. He has divided up chapters into a handful of pages (thought the font is rather small), so each "question" or "argument" is addressed quickly yet sufficiently.

The title of the book, "Is God a Moral Monster?" obviously is a rhetorical question. No, He isn't. But, why do new atheists frame God as such a being? In a nutshell, because they use out-of-context phrases, expressions, and impressions from the Bible. With Copan's further explanation on cultural backgrounds, context of events, and linguistic nuances, readers are able to grasp the deeper and more caring heart of God the Father.

I have not finished reading the book, bur the first 9 chapters or so have been satisfying. A good book for those who know the short answer to the question, but who need more detail and, thus, confidence/evidence.
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Here's Lookin' at Euclid
5.0 out of 5 stars Thoughtful and timely
Reviewed in the United States on August 18, 2020
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It seems like atheism is all around us today, and it is difficult for a Christian not to wonder “what if they’re right? This book helped me reason through some of those thoughts. I appreciate Mr. Copan’s conversational tone and careful documentation. I learned a lot about Near Eastern culture that affected how the Old Testament was written.
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D. Ervin
5.0 out of 5 stars Tackles the Tough Questions in Easy to Read Manner
Reviewed in the United States on September 6, 2017
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Copan takes on the difficult questions and doesn't back away from the concerns these questions raise about the Christian faith. He addresses the questions in a fair and balanced way while at the same time providing accurate context and historical facts. Finally, it's written for the average person like me and not written for the philosopher. Anyone can read this book and understand what he is communicating without vocabulary only philosophers use.
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Jonathan mason
5.0 out of 5 stars Have Questions? This book will answer them.
Reviewed in the United States on April 10, 2020
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If you or someone you know is struggling with the morality of the old testament God, then this book is for you. It takes on all the moral issues people have brought up with the old testament by thoroughly examining the text, things lost in translations, and the culture of Israel at that time, in order to see the full picture. This book would be good for everyone to read: people that have moral issues with the old testament God, people just trying to understand their God better, and especially pastors. This book has a lot of good information for answering people's question about God's actions and commands in the old testament. Additionally, all of his sources are listed, with references being provided as you're reading the book. So its easy to find out where exactly he got his information. 10/10 would read again.
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J Hegle
5.0 out of 5 stars it's easy to read
Reviewed in the United States on March 8, 2016
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I just finished it and have taken notes on the first 100 pages. I have been a believer for almost 50 years and I learned SO MUCH - no one every helped me understand half of these things before. Also, I "listen" to a lot of neo-atheists and the way the author represented them is exactly what I've found to be true, sorry to say. For a deep book, it's easy to read, which keeps surprising me.
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Chris
5.0 out of 5 stars Very informative
Reviewed in the United States on February 8, 2019
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I’m reading the Old Testament for the first time. I came to Christ a little over 3 years ago and this a very good book for someone like me who used to be an atheist. I love Christ, but I was timid with regard to the Old Testament, because I wasn’t certain I’d find Christ there. But I’ve been wonderfully surprised to see the God I know working through history with a broken people with all the grace, wisdom, and justice that can only be summed up by the word, God.
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